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Merlion
03-24-2006, 08:14 PM
Interesting. Nice photo of the life-size sculpture in the full news article found here (http://news.sawf.org/Entertainment/9504.aspx).
Nude Britney Spears Giving Birth Statue - Monument to Pro-Life
Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 (EST)
A nude statue of Britney Spears giving birth to her son Sean Preston, by artist Daniel Edwards, has been dedicated to Pro-Life by Capla Kesting Fine Art in Brooklyn’s Williamsburg gallery district, New York.
BROOKLYN (March 22, 2006) --- A nude Britney Spears on a bearskin rug while giving birth to her firstborn marks a ‘first’ for Pro-Life. Pop-star Britney Spears is the “ideal” model for Pro-Life and the subject of a dedication at Capla Kesting Fine Art in Brooklyn’s Williamsburg gallery district, in what is proclaimed the first Pro-Life monument to birth, in April. .....
“Monument to Pro-Life: The Birth of Sean Preston,” believed Pro-Life’s first monument to the ‘act of giving birth,’ is purportedly an idealized depiction of Britney in delivery. Natural aspects of Spears’ pregnancy, like lactiferous breasts and protruding naval, compliment a posterior view that depicts widened hips for birthing and reveals the crowning of baby Sean’s head.
The monument also acknowledges the pop-diva’s pin-up past by showing Spears seductively posed on all fours atop a bearskin rug with back arched, pelvis thrust upward, as she clutches the bear’s ears with ‘water-retentive’ hands.
“Britney provides inspiration for those struggling with the ‘right choice’,” said artist Daniel Edwards, recipient of a 2005 Bartlebooth award from London’s The Art Newspaper. “She was number one with Google last year, with good reason --- people are inspired by the beauty of a pregnant woman,” said Edwards.
Capla Kesting denies the statue was developed from a rumored bootleg Britney Spears birth video. The artist admits to using references that include the wax figure of a pole-dancing Britney at Las Vegas’ Madame Tussauds and ‘Britney wigs’ characterizing various hairstyles of the pop-princess from a Los Angeles hairstylist. And according to gallery co-director, David Kesting, the artist studied a bearskin rug from Canada “to convey the commemoration of the traditional bearskin rug baby picture.” ......
grommet
03-25-2006, 11:54 AM
What a load of cr--. Like that moment in time, with that particular person has anything to do with the reality of pregnancy, birth or child-rearing. If anything, it emphasizes the delusional state of the pro-life contingent.
Beyond that, it's a gutsy sculpt.
sculptorsam
03-25-2006, 12:07 PM
The only word to explain that is bizarre. Simply bizarre. Generally speaking, I'm a big fan of the bizarre - but I wouldn't want that in my home.
I don't think it looks like her. weird stuff not something I would find inspiring just weird, its pretty funny actually.
G. Murdoch
03-25-2006, 03:50 PM
I like the idea. I don't particularly care for the attachment of celebrity. While attending the birth of my daughter, Gabrielle, I was quite literally in awe of the amount of effort exerted, and pain endured by her mother.
When Gabrielle was 2-3 I bought a book "Heart of the Goddess" images of the sacred feminine from all around the world stretching back to the Woman of Willendorf. Several sculptures had the crowning of the infant's head as the composition.
One day I will carve the moment of birth. It is one of the most powerful and significant events in the life cycle. To date my figurative work has been about quiet contemplation, the splendor of action, tenderness of parent and child. I am attracted to renderings of conception, gestation, birth, growth, maturity, decrepitude, and death.
Graham
oddist
03-27-2006, 09:55 AM
Totally opportunistic if you ask me...
Artist, model, gallery, and cause...
Such is much in the art world today. :(
RCFA-Raven
03-27-2006, 10:19 AM
I agree with everyone so far and couldn't put it better myself. This might have apealed to me more if the artist hadn't said it was Brit??? But it is very odd, no matter what.
Blake
03-28-2006, 01:38 AM
I think it is very bizarre and although I appreciate the beauty of childbirth I think that there are many ways of portraying a mother and child that are much more beautiful but much less shocking, which is more the point of this piece. Allot of what art is about today is marketing and using a celebrity and a cause is a standard approach, I don’t think that this is about pro-life nor is it about the beauty of childbirth it is about sales and creating a new worthy event rather than creating art.
I think that Murdoch's comment is interesting, she doesn't look like she is in pain at all, she seems rather nonchalant about it, as if she is more involved with the bear rug than her baby.
I wouldn’t want to have it in my home, but there is no accounting for taste.
Blake
philpraxis
03-28-2006, 05:14 AM
Why is human sculpture so much associated with ugly treatment of surfaces and old-fashioned looks as this sculpture is?
It seems to me that only few contemporary artists did interesting things with nudes... (Comes to mind: David Mach with The Harem Figure for example)
Can we speak of post-80's sculpture with the work of a handful of sculptors?
fritchie
03-29-2006, 09:21 AM
Not a bad sculpture, but a bit silly in my opinion. She's supported only by her knees and the hands loosely holding the bearskin ears. The image is of the clay; no time for casting because the purpose is newsworthiness and not art.
Obviously, we are in for a long ride with imagery of all sorts catching the crowd's attention. The artist benefits, the salesperson benefits, an attached promotional group benefits in this case, the medium or media benefit, ... .
It reminds me of circuses coming to town as when I was much younger, the town was small, and the daily routine included school, cutting the grass, making dinner, doing the wash, gathering the daily bread, ... .
Life requires diversion, and nowadays diversions are fast and odd. I have to admire the sculptor and the gallery for their alertness. Tempus fugit!
Merlion
03-30-2006, 12:30 AM
Not a bad sculpture, but a bit silly in my opinion. She's supported only by her knees and the hands loosely holding the bearskin ears. The image is of the clay; no time for casting because the purpose is newsworthiness and not art.
Obviously, we are in for a long ride with imagery of all sorts catching the crowd's attention. The artist benefits, the salesperson benefits, an attached promotional group benefits in this case, the medium or media benefit, ... . [snip]
Not that I would do it myself, apparently attracting publicity is the name of the game, isn't it?
The sculpture has not yet been shown to the public. There is still one month to go. And already there are more than 300 news website around the world reporting on this sculpture.
To Britney, this extra publicity is perhaps insignificant. But because of this sculpture, so many more people all over the world will have heard of the sculptor Daniel Edwards, the art gallery Capla Kesting and the organization Pro-Life.
justme
03-30-2006, 05:12 PM
Good Grief,
I'm sure there are many better "poster children" to represent the pro-life movement. I too don't think that is what it is about.
j
Merlion
04-06-2006, 10:35 AM
After quite a lot of early publicity, this sculpture has just been unveiled to the public at the Brooklyn gallery.
These excerpts below is from one of the news reports after the unveiling. Note the comments about the artist.
Britney sculpture causes uproar
Thu Apr 6 2006
A controversial lifestyle sculpture of Britney Spears giving birth has been unveiled in a Brooklyn gallery.
The Capla Kesting Fine Art Gallery has revealed the sculpture to the public showing a nude Brit kneeling on a bearskin rug whilst giving birth. [snip]
The 'art' piece has caused a political storm but Edwards is keen to explain that he purely sees Brit as a modern fertility goddess. [snip]
The sculpture isn't particularly true to faith, Britney gave birth by caesarean birth, but Edwards decided to portray it in his own way.
Edwards is no stranger to celebrity art controversy -- the artist also sculpted Ted Williams' decapitated head, which was frozen in hopes that science could one day revive the baseball hero.
Edwards has hinted his next celebrity target may be father-to-be Tom Cruise and has warned us all to stay tuned.
Click here (http://www.itv.com/news/entertainment_82077.html) for the full article.
iron ant
04-06-2006, 11:48 AM
Alright right,what a crock of crap,pr move of the week.Some poor sculptor,probally been doing figrive work for decades,but can,t get that break ,is at home scatching there head right now.I sa its art with a fart...........................IA
sculptr97
04-06-2006, 04:13 PM
There is no way in the world the Pro-Life movement has sanctioned this.
syndicate.01
06-02-2006, 03:44 PM
Here's sa'more [explicit] images of that preggy girly statue, ya'll :) :) ...[That I love, so much :) :) ]
http://www.my.opera.com/syndicate.01/homes/albums/65081/e01..png
http://www.my.opera.com/syndicate.01/homes/albums/65081/e02..png
Ya!!! i wouldnt want it in my house but i do like the art work..
doesnt matter if its britt or another women.. when i look at the work i dont see britt, i see a great monent in life..although my wife would never pose for a shot like that..
syndicate.01
06-06-2006, 04:21 PM
THOUGHT YOU ALL WOULD BE INTERESTED :D :D :D :D :p :p ....
Candice Lee
06-07-2006, 11:42 AM
Something fake about it—there is no beauty (more interest in the details of the hairdo than any substance), no emotional content or expression as others have said…quite stiff, with poor anatomy: take a look at the misplaced right shoulder in the posted photo, for instance.
The sculpture definitely shows the female in an animalistic way that tends toward misogyny. Only our four-legged friends give birth that way. It also fails to show birth as something beautiful, sexualizing it, as if that were the only way it could be made acceptable.
Ditto to what others have said about Britney as poster child for pro-life. She is a married, multi-millionaire who chose to get pregnant, not a teen welfare mother who seriously considered abortion, struggled with a weighty decision and chose to have the child. What’s the connection?
Candice
syndicate.01
06-07-2006, 12:39 PM
- Everyone lets keep it civil and not personal here. -
syndicate.01
06-07-2006, 02:20 PM
I DUN WHEN UN FORGOT JUAN..... HEERE U GOW :p :p :p .......
http://my.opera.com/syndicate.01/homes/albums/65081/e09..png
Arrow
06-07-2006, 08:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuemHM6EWE
Severed Heads of Daniel Edwards
Merlion
06-08-2006, 11:53 AM
Here I'll comment only on the artistic aspects of this deliberately controversial sculpture by Edwards.
Artistically, I like the grey color in the earlier publicity photos. There is something uncomfortable with the final color which is near skin color. Those of us who make figurative sculptures may know that skin color is a wrong choice when it is applied to the whole sculpture, as it includes the hair, the eyes, the lips, etc.
On another matter that looks wrong. At the front, the pregnant mother looks calm and relaxed, as shown by her face and the hands. But at the back, she is seen to be at the point of pushing the baby out, which means she would be exerting herself and in great pain.
But other than these, it can be seen that the artist has done his homework making many parts of the body realistic.
RuBert
06-09-2006, 12:55 PM
I don't really care to host these images.
I'll leave the link for now, but we don't need them posted in our face to discuss the sculpture or the artist intent.
Please keep discussions on topic and without personal attacks.
syndicate.01
08-08-2006, 11:17 AM
Look like good old RUBARK, don't loike to exercise the right of free sppech, even for arts sake...... http://www.my.opera.com/syndicate.01/homes/albums/65081/e01..png
Portoro
03-04-2009, 07:41 AM
Why is human sculpture so much associated with ugly treatment of surfaces and old-fashioned looks as this sculpture is?
Yes, my first reaction was to the surfaces. Ugly, lacking any interest in the stone, any sense of a maker. The whole thing is itself over-designed too. An idea in stone, no more.
Old-fashioned? Well, most great sculptors since the Renaissance have chosen their medium carefully, and, if stone, which particular type to work in and exploit. This piece need not be in stone at all, it could be in resin, and resin may even be more appropriate, given the lack of interest shown in the material.
As for 'monument' and 'pro-life' - assertions.
Portoro
03-04-2009, 04:06 PM
Black Cat - if you're referring to me about symbolism - Yes, the bear has to be symbolic. But I come from a literary background, and artists have to have a pretty profound understanding of how symbolism works to pull it off. (like writers), and writers, of course, can spend a LOT of time doing it badly in the learning process. The bear is BAD symbolism because it can be NOTHING ELSE but symbol. I also see nothing here to suggest that the symbolism of the work adds to its status as sculpture. In fact, if anything, it diminishes it by turning the work to 'text', inviting the audience to 'puzzle'. Symbolism, in any case, should not be a 'puzzle', it is used by the great writers to add complexity to the text that, in any case, should stand on its own two feet as art. I also see a lot of young artists taking up symbolism as if it adds a kind of intellectual dignity to the work. (What does this mean? What does that mean?). This kind of symbolism is also very old hat (like that metaphor) and leads not to a fuller response to the work but to separation from it (puzzle, puzzle). Unfortunately Hirst has indulged in this too, to the detriment of his best work. My advice would be to steer clear of symbolism. You could get away with it in the religious periods in art history, where art was a kind of illustration (of stories and text). Quinn is returning art to illustration here (of some kind of POINT), and after the 20th century suceeded in releasing us from all that, it's a pity, and a retrograde step on his part.
Personally, I also see no deep relationship between the bear as pure symbol and the rest of the work, although I do think that the pose Spears is given offers various readings (it is of a childbirth, but is also clearly suggestive of the pose of a female seeking either anal sex or penetration from the back). This set of readings of the pose may relate to the bear, which must at least be read as representative of sexuality (bears take females from behind, as do most creatures in the animal world). Reinforcing this is the particular weight given to the way the hands hold the head of the bearand the manner in which the eyes are directed to it (affectionately? Invitingly?). The bear as rug or as trophy? The bear as female? There are issues here too - puzzle, puzzle. A bit of a tangle, and, in any case, the meaning may lie elsewhere. Personally I think it is the piece of stone that's got f****d.
Zophia
03-04-2009, 04:18 PM
this is some good shtuff:):eek:
evaldart
03-04-2009, 05:57 PM
I suppose, just me mind you, that this things is not Art at all...its a mere cultural antagonizer and Art needs to be way better than just that. Popular culture, human rights and even sexuality are not worthy subjects...they are good beginnings, maybe, but not good endings. Sorry. There are far bigger things to be gained by aesthetic exploration. When we've owned up to that it will be time for the real rewards.
StevenW
03-04-2009, 06:58 PM
Personally, I also see no deep relationship between the bear as pure symbol and the rest of the work, although I do think that the pose Spears is given offers various readings (it is of a childbirth, but is also clearly suggestive of the pose of a female seeking either anal sex or penetration from the back). This set of readings of the pose may relate to the bear, which must at least be read as representative of sexuality (bears take females from behind, as do most creatures in the animal world). Reinforcing this is the particular weight given to the way the hands hold the head of the bearand the manner in which the eyes are directed to it (affectionately? Invitingly?). The bear as rug or as trophy? The bear as female? There are issues here too - puzzle, puzzle. A bit of a tangle, and, in any case, the meaning may lie elsewhere. Personally I think it is the piece of stone that's got f****d.
Well the bear has his eyes looking forward (cut off from view) and she is covering its ears, so that would indicate to me that she is cutting off any remaining sensory perception to exclude the bear (whatever it may or may not represent) from experiencing or sharing in her event. It's strangely empowering for the female, while at the same time she is in a very subjugated pose. I suppose that is the rug she was poked on to begin with, everything goes round full-circle and all. Unless,.. of-course,....The bear represents the father? Hmm, I couldn't tell whether or not there was any fur on the baby's skull, but I'm sure I detected a faint smile on Yogi's face.. :rolleyes:
Portoro
03-05-2009, 02:43 AM
Evaldart's got it right for me (as he often does, given that his artistic instincts rule his head). As for 'puzzling art is just another medium' - my instincts scream 'bollocks'. I go to the Times Crossword for my puzzles, not to great art.
Portoro
03-05-2009, 04:10 PM
Black Cat - I can see that you’re going to be very easy to wind up, and if you are I’d stay clear of forums like this! Please note: Quinn has been dealt with at some length elsewhere by most of us, and this new thread is only of interest at the level of idle entertainment – it may be worth keeping that in mind when you get all stroppy.
However, there are a couple of issues raised here that do interest me:
1) Symbolism. Symbolism is a tool, a technique. It can be used by poets, novelists, sculptors, painters, political speech writers, ad men – you name it. It isn’t something that is intrinsic to any medium (as, say, stone is to sculpting or paint to, well, painting, and as line, form, mass and space are to both). Symbolism can be exploited by practitioners in these various media, but it can also be completely absent. So, when we spend ages discussing the symbolism of Quinn’s work we are not discussing it as sculpture – we are merely discussing the use the sculptor has made of a particular generic technique that is NOT intrinsic to its value as sculpture. So, let’s hear what you think of his work as sculpture, or is the work’s symbolism IT for you? If so, then you’ve misconstrued everything.
2) Getting beyond Symbolism. I’m a Brit, as is Quinn. We come from that old European culture that has historically made everything VERY complex and intricate (like our history and just about every object in the culture, all LAIDEN with deeply-layered levels of significance and ‘meaning’), and hence we have LOVED our symbolism. Read your Henry James. European culture is a TRAP into which naïve and usually BETTER Americans have often fallen, to their detriment. Classic American naivety, in the Jamesean sense, is a wonderful thing. It springs from the fact that your culture is at most a few hundred years old (depending when you think it started), and you have had the wonderful opportunity to START AFRESH. All that old European s**t could be set aside, and new beginnings pursued. Wow! In the 20th century American culture had the courage to do this (although people like Whitman, Hawthrone and Thoreau also did it in the 19th century). In the 20th century, it starts with writers like William Carlos Williams, who decided that all that symbolism, metaphor, etc only destroyed the IMMEDIACY of the work (in his case, the poem). Americans were in the novel position to be able to look at life afresh, without the weight of culture we Europeans have, and Williams felt that it would be ‘American’ in the best sense to reject all this European complexity (which draws us away from the ACTUAL, the vividness of reality and experience). Hence his fresh, vivid works, that ping off the page into the brain – no puzzle, puzzle. Hemingway later did something similar with the novel. And American artists have done something similar for art. Art possibly went abstract, in some sense, with Turner and Cezanne, followed by Picasso/Braque and their cubist experiments. However, Turner is still a symbolist (he’s a Brit); Cezanne got close to pure abstraction, although he never could quite give up representation. Picasso went sorta abstract, but he’s European too, and ended up toying with Greek mythology, neo-classicism and clowning around for 30 years of his artistc life. It actually took the Americans to really GET RID of the symbolism and all that. And that’s because of the tradition in America of SEEING ANEW. American practitioners of abstract/non-objective art taught us Europeans to re-think, and that’s why we Brits get Antony Caro eventually (a Brit who had the courage to go back to the artistic principles of form/line/mass and their relationship to space – NO SYMBOLISM). This is what was achieved in the 20 century, and America took it on as only America could. SO, don’t talk to me about symbolism. It’s a death-trap, and Quinn’s work DIES in its grip.
cheesepaws
03-05-2009, 05:08 PM
Hi all - just for clarification - the Britney sculpture is by American sculptor Daniel Edwards - not Quinn.
StevenW
03-05-2009, 06:49 PM
Hi all - just for clarification - the Britney sculpture is by American sculptor Daniel Edwards - not Quinn.
Spears, Moss, whatever, they all look alike and once you've seen one you've seen em all anyway. :)
Nonetheless, I did watch this guy's youtube vid and he seemed like a nice enough chap with a genuine interest in something more than mere commercialism. I guess I just couldn't get all that excited about sitting down with a fresh new block of marble and thinking to myself; Gee, I think I'll carve brittany Spears on a bearskin rug delivering a baby.
Portoro
03-06-2009, 02:59 AM
Not Quinn - my apologies to Quinn, then. Now I feel sad that Americans are doing this too!
Steven - you comment that they all look alike in interesting. On reflection, I don't recall any Quinn works that are so laden with symbolism and 'meaning'. But I agree that this sculptor's work looks remarkably like that of Quinn's. In other threads I have referred to the hackneyed sculptural forms that Quinn's work displays and the bland impersonal nature of the carving. We know that Quinn uses studio artists in Italy to actually make the works (at least, the ones we discussed on those threads). And this, I've argued, is why we get these cliched forms (for instance, the styling of the hair, as in this Britney Spears piece), as well as the complete lack of interest in the stone (the MEDIUM, for goodness sake). Here the medium is not only NOT the message, it is irrelevant. So, I would be interested to know if this sculptor is actually doing his own carving, and if he is, what he thinks he is doing at the level of carving. I have to say, from a personal point of view, that I would hate to see sculpture being reduced to the statements that can be driven through it. Sculpture is more than that, better than that.
Black Cat - have you trayed in from some trashy alley somewhere? Don't you know how to debate or discuss? Take part, don't get into a 13-year old strop all the time (unless, of course, you are only 13).
And quoting - don't you know what 'quote means', i.e. a PART of the text?
StevenW
03-06-2009, 08:47 AM
I think you're being rough on the Italian carvers. Impersonal is an understatement and mechanical is more apt. Pay your 3D modeler a few hundred bucks and he'll have the model in your hands within a few days, probably in France and then strike a deal with Dremmel so they can advertize that the tools were used on it and they'll knock one of these off for you on a mill in a day or two right down to the pores and eyelashes...
evaldart
03-06-2009, 10:38 AM
Poor Edwards...another artist lost in the silly quagmire or pop culture and nostalgia. He's in a terrible comfort zone with his figuration...not reaching, not aggressing...not achieving. And as he gets more and more encouraged in these matters he is likely to only set himself deeper in that cozy hole. They'll genius him and bury the poor guy in dollars. Another one bites the dust.
StevenW
03-06-2009, 12:44 PM
I'm still trying to figure out exactly who is "deeply hurt" here... I suppose the Italian carvers would be my first guess.
GlennT
03-06-2009, 01:06 PM
I'm still trying to figure out exactly who is "deeply hurt" here... I suppose the Italian carvers would be my first guess.
It could be the sore finger from constantly hitting the lol buttons, trying to generate laughs like the laugh track on a sitcom.
cheesepaws
03-06-2009, 01:54 PM
It could be the sore finger from constantly hitting the lol buttons, trying to generate laughs like the laugh track on a sitcom.
What you talkin' 'bout GlennT? - this thread is filmed before a live studio audience.
StevenW
03-09-2009, 09:58 AM
lol! I bitch slapped some dude on his blog who ...blah blah blah
"Aegles non captat muscas" old boy.. An old Latin phrase meaning Eagles do not chase flies.. Bitch slapping an audience member on American Idol may provide a momentary sense of one upsmanship, fleeting at best, but when you do that, do it for the right reason. These works ARE the real American Idols...
StevenW
03-09-2009, 01:57 PM
I'm bitch-slap blocked and can't forcibly improve(but only not, i.e. teach a man to fish cliché') the thief on this topic :/ oh well..
Imagine the nerve, however could this have happened? :)
underfoot
03-09-2009, 11:04 PM
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that sure is a lot of views,
wonder if the "nude Britney Spears" tag had anything to do with it :rolleyes:
wonder if all the viewers are sculptors :rolleyes:
wonder how this could have happened :)
grommet
03-09-2009, 11:17 PM
a snarl of rubber-neckers is probably not the "traffic" one hopes for.
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