Help please? what kind of clay?

[queen of dorks]

Hello there :)

I'm an anime artist, and I'm hoping to start making anime figures! :D I know it sounds a little silly, but I've set it as a goal and now there is no stopping me! I'm just hoping I can get a little help from more experienced sculptors along the way :o

My question for you is the following-

do you know what type of clay this is? :
http://www8.ocn.ne.jp/~grimrock/nikki.htm

(scroll down until it shows the steps of building the figure)

I plan on making similar figures (in my own style) and this clay looks like it would be perfect for the job! so do any of you know what kind it is, or a kind that would have similar results?

I'd appreciate any help you can give me! :D

[Blake]

I would suggest that this is a type of oil based clay or plastisine, it would have to be fairly hard and there is a wire armature inside of the clay.
You could try a brand like Chavant or roma plastilina
Blake

[GaryR52]

It looks more like polymer clay to me, Blake. Plasticine would never be packaged and sold as figures like these, as it's not a permanent medium and would be damaged too easily. Polymer clay is baked in an oven and becomes hard and durable. Polymer clay figures are a fairly big business, also.

Your majesty, if you're contemplating selling your figures, then, yes, polymer clay would be the right stuff. I suggest learning a bit about it, as there are some safety tips you'll want to know about, as well as techniques, etc. Here are a few good sources:

http://www.npcg.org/

http://www.polymerclaycentral.com/

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art33912.asp


Gary

[Blake]

Gary
You are right, I never thought about it as being the final product, I thought that the figures were cast and the packaged doll would be a series of several thousand copies.
Would you use an armature in polymer clay?
and can you do large figures?

Blake

[queen of dorks]

Thankyou for the replies, guys :)

I was thinking the same, that it might be plastilina or something like polymer clay. It looks a lot like plastilina in those photos, but I've seen other ones of his figures in progress, and they look dry (before they've been cast) so maybe its not, or maybe he was using different clay on those particular figures? its hard to know when the site is all in japanese :o

I have some more questions if you have time to answer-

1.assuming its plastilina or polymer clay, would I be able to make hair like that with either medium? a lot of his figures...their hair seems to defy gravity! I have a strong feeling that if I tried it, my clay would just droop (and as far as I can see he didn't put any wires in the hair either)

2. how do you make armatures? and if I used one in polymer clay, would it be safe to bake it?

sorry for my stupid questions, but I really am new at this :o

OH! and one more thing- the clay figure does not have to be the finished product, assuming I like how it turns out, I would look into making resin casts and paint those :D

[Hakuro]

Well ,am trying to make my anime figure too you know and I thought of making it with polymer clay and then I 've found out it's subbose to be made with pvc or vinyl material but I cant find a place to buy those anyway keep trying with polymer clay ! are u gonna mold it or sumthin?

the site you posted isnt workin anymore is there another picture you can show?? cause i really wanna see what kind you'r trying to make

here is what i'am trying to make : http://www.dannychoo.com/blog_entry/eng/510/Igunis/ sumthin like that but dunno >.<

btw , do u own a deviantart acc??








Thankyou for the replies, guys :)

I was thinking the same, that it might be plastilina or something like polymer clay. It looks a lot like plastilina in those photos, but I've seen other ones of his figures in progress, and they look dry (before they've been cast) so maybe its not, or maybe he was using different clay on those particular figures? its hard to know when the site is all in japanese :o

I have some more questions if you have time to answer-

1.assuming its plastilina or polymer clay, would I be able to make hair like that with either medium? a lot of his figures...their hair seems to defy gravity! I have a strong feeling that if I tried it, my clay would just droop (and as far as I can see he didn't put any wires in the hair either)

2. how do you make armatures? and if I used one in polymer clay, would it be safe to bake it?

sorry for my stupid questions, but I really am new at this :o

OH! and one more thing- the clay figure does not have to be the finished product, assuming I like how it turns out, I would look into making resin casts and paint those :D

[nep75]

www.sculpey.com

Here's another polymer clay. You can do an aluminum wire armature or because you can bake and rebake this clay you can make the armature out of the clay.... I haven't tried it, but it seems like it would work. Polymer clay can be the finished product and you can take a mold of it. Not a bad choice for starting with. Plus once it's baked you can still change it a bit with sanding and other finishing techniques.

If you are going to be making molds and casting them, then a plastiline clay would be sufficient. It won't dry out and can be reused after the mold is taken. There are several out there. I would recommend one with out sulfur in it as it can inhibit cure of silicones (the molding material). And as someone said before, it should be a firm one to get the kind of detailing you want, ie. the hair. With this clay, you will need an armature, again - an aluminum wire is great for armatures.

My 2 cents :)
~ N

[Merlion]

I've used Sculpey polymer clay. The baking to harden can be in a electric oven normally used in kitchens. It is important to set the temperature to 130C. Don't over bake.

For armature, I use aluminum kitchen foil squeezed into the shape I want as a core. This supports the piece and helps to save some clay.

After hardening, it can still be carved. Normally I touch up the details with a penknife. And if the shape is still not correct, more clay can still be added and bake again,

Have fun.

[Hakuro]

I've used Sculpey polymer clay. The baking to harden can be in a electric oven normally used in kitchens. It is important to set the temperature to 130C. Don't over bake.

For armature, I use aluminum kitchen foil squeezed into the shape I want as a core. This supports the piece and helps to save some clay.

After hardening, it can still be carved. Normally I touch up the details with a penknife. And if the shape is still not correct, more clay can still be added and bake again,

Have fun.

sounds a bit easy 4 u! lol

[Hakuro]

suppose the molds are done, what are u suppose to fill them up with? (to get it like the figure i showed .......:: http://www.dannychoo.com/blog_entry/eng/510/Igunis/ pvc material , dunno where to get it ) and what is resin btw?






www.sculpey.com

Here's another polymer clay. You can do an aluminum wire armature or because you can bake and rebake this clay you can make the armature out of the clay.... I haven't tried it, but it seems like it would work. Polymer clay can be the finished product and you can take a mold of it. Not a bad choice for starting with. Plus once it's baked you can still change it a bit with sanding and other finishing techniques.

If you are going to be making molds and casting them, then a plastiline clay would be sufficient. It won't dry out and can be reused after the mold is taken. There are several out there. I would recommend one with out sulfur in it as it can inhibit cure of silicones (the molding material). And as someone said before, it should be a firm one to get the kind of detailing you want, ie. the hair. With this clay, you will need an armature, again - an aluminum wire is great for armatures.

My 2 cents :)
~ N

[Landseer]

do you know what type of clay this is? :
Hard to say now:

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