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Old 02-10-2005, 10:16 AM
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Mineral Cocktail

Hi there

Since 4 years ago, I'm trying to find a mineral mixture that complains with my own requirements, according to my artistic language and the way I use to work: a mixture self-structural, water based, no shrinkage, very low granulometry, fast setting (hours) and as hard as rock when cured (1-2 days), high adhesivity fresh-fresh and fresh-cured(old) material, maleable as clay, indoor-outdoor use, and of course, local and cheap basic materials. This January finally crown my search, although the mixture is still in a beta period, working in hidratation balance, it's working very well.

Here's some of my last works with MINERAL COCKTAIL (the boy needs a name). Just constructive crithics, please.
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Old 02-10-2005, 03:21 PM
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Re: Mineral Cocktail

Hi, The pieces look very well done, I especially like the 2nd one (torso). Great patina and very expressive. I really love the way you colored that piece. What did you color it with?
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Old 02-10-2005, 07:30 PM
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Re: Mineral Cocktail

CHANOC - I like both pieces, both the form and the patina. They show freshness with the figure, something that can be hard to achieve with a subject so venerable.
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Old 02-10-2005, 10:37 PM
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Re: Mineral Cocktail

The ideal sculpting medium
the holy grail

seekers seek and loose themselves in the finding

hey CHANOC where you from/

your work has a nice flow to it----don't stop

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Old 02-11-2005, 08:35 AM
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Re: Mineral Cocktail

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Hi, The pieces look very well done, I especially like the 2nd one (torso). Great patina and very expressive. I really love the way you colored that piece. What did you color it with?
Have a nice day,
Jeff

Hi there

It's not a patina or a colored mixture, that´s the color of the cured material, another feature of my Mineral Cocktail
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Old 02-11-2005, 09:11 AM
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The ideal sculpting medium
the holy grail

seekers seek and loose themselves in the finding

hey CHANOC where you from/

your work has a nice flow to it----don't stop

rod

I'm from San Pedro Garza García, north of Mexico, begin with sculpture eleven years ago with bronze (attached is my very first piece from 1994), but here in my country there are just artesanal foundries, industrial ones turning their dead production time to "artistical foundries. Lot of problems with the bronze process, although the high costs.

I tried to turn them to new technologies, but it take most of my time with very low results. My "golgota" begins and take a trip around a lot of sculpting techniques: wax, cements, hydrocals, pewter, glass fibber, forge, iron, glass,etc, etc.

Then I begin to develop my own material, having now five different formulas to work with, being the greenish one (cm-20 technical name, from coctel mineral 20 essay) the jewel of the crown.

Here's my first piece in bronze, 1994, and another two january production with another formula, patina free, just polished wax finish
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Old 02-15-2005, 07:40 PM
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Another two modeled with Mineral Cocktail.

Your opinion would be great for me.
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Old 02-20-2005, 09:52 PM
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Nice movement, Chanoc. Are you sure you need the base?
What is your mineral cocktail made of?
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Old 02-21-2005, 10:51 AM
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Nice movement, Chanoc. Are you sure you need the base?
What is your mineral cocktail made of?
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Thanks Jaz

About the base, I had never question it before, I always use it, but I'll try them without and lets see, perhaps you're right and it helps to my work. Sometimes bases become a headache.

The mineral cocktail is a water base mixture of different mineral agregattes, mineral fillers, mineral spirits, microfibers and mineral agglutinants that I develop through the last four years. In previous posts I stat the features. This material gives me more freedom for expression, let's me work continuously without dead times waiting for dry or cure, its self-structural feature discard armatures (most of case), and the color let me work, by this moment, work without patination.

The material needs some adjustements to stablish working standards, this week I test the formulas to find the strongest hidratation process and ratio.

Next step, I'll take advantage of it's chemical properties to develop formulas or patinas for different color.

I develop it as a media for originals, working as in clay, but finish it as in stone.
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Old 02-21-2005, 01:10 PM
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How stable is it over time?
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Old 02-21-2005, 01:36 PM
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Well, the material is in its beta period. I tested the oldest work made with actual formulas (6 months) two weeks ago, and everything's OK.

The chemical analisis of the exotermic reaction resultants (0 hidromol) tell us about a high stability and durability, indoor-outdoor. The destructive test compares its resistance with concrete.

Lets time do its job, that's a better test.
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Old 02-21-2005, 06:21 PM
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This is a new one, "I just see your splinter", also Mineral Cocktail interconstructed in a dead bush. The name reffers to the biblic quote about the splinter in other's eye.
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This is a new one, "I just see your splinter", also Mineral Cocktail interconstructed in a dead bush. The name reffers to the biblic quote about the splinter in other's eye.
This is another good piece, CHANOC. I applaud your efforts with new materials. It's a gamble, particularly with the question of ageing. You probably know that Leonardo da Vinci had many of his pieces decay while he still was living, but if you don’t try, you can’t succeed. Let us continue to hear how these pieces and these materials work.

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Old 02-22-2005, 09:22 AM
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[quote=fritchie] "if you don’t try, you can’t succeed."

That´s the point fritchie. We the artists are suppose to be creatives, innovators, and I think that's in all aspects of our ephimere lives, we have to try the never did before, the never express before, the never saw before without fear, and maybe then we can succeed.

Perhaps all the results of this creative effort disappear in two or three years, but then, there'll be another two or three years more of accumulated knowledge and experience. I'd try mineral cocktails last four years, about 24 major formulas and a lot more of minor or variations ones, but now, like Edison said, I know a lot of roads that takes me to nowhere, but at last, find other ones that sure helps me to do what I want to. And in the middle, there was a lot of amusement and suspense. That's life.

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Old 02-28-2005, 05:21 PM
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This is SALOME, a Mineral Cocktail one acrilic polichromed and buffed wax finish.
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Old 03-14-2005, 11:55 AM
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Re: splinter

I like "I just see your splinter" very much. Relook at how the base on this one works compared to the other two posted earlier. The splinter base seems to work with the piece. Sometimes I find my chosen bases are just freeloading.

With comodity sized sculpture the base problem can be like the sentence that ending.. ends...that just dosn't seem to be finished...can't quite wrap up right.
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