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Old 06-23-2007, 06:05 PM
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Can't miss this art

The story of the installation of a huge steel sculpture, with the artist heavily involved in the process.

Can't miss this art

A 171/2-ton sculpture is installed on the Parkway



June 23, 2007, ...... Sculptor Mark di Suvero, apprehensive, 30 feet in the air, swung the forklift around and then slowly down; as he did, a massive crane lifted three tons of red-orange steel and gently, guided by five straining workers on the ground, moved it slowly into place. ....

Di Suvero's friend of 50 years, collector and humanitarian activist David N. Pincus, 81, was thrilled too, as he looked on. ...

Pincus is the man responsible for bringing Iroquois to Philadelphia. ...

Pincus .... last year acquired Iroquois for the Fairmount Park Art Association, which will own and maintain the work. (It is not known what Pincus paid for it; the piece was appraised for $1.3 million in 2004.)

"This is not an Eakins," di Suvero said, smiling. "It will not be sold. It's staying."

It is also by far the largest public sculpture installed here in recent years - it tops out at 40 feet and weighs 171/2 tons - and among the most prominently placed abstract works in the city. .....

Di Suvero, who lives in New York, is a card-carrying crane operator. He cuts his own steel - an oddly delicate process that takes that "special kind of time." He speaks the language of both union members and museumgoers. And even though this is the fourth time he has installed Iroquois, created in 1983, he was completely attentive to every detail and bit of engineering. ....

"The beauty of this is that he's doing this thing himself," Pincus said, watching di Suvero pick up a welding tool and mask, and prepare to fuse Iroquois to footers set in the green ground on the Parkway. "He's not telling anyone else to do it." ....


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Old 06-29-2007, 09:32 AM
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Re: Can't miss this art

Reminds me a bit of Antony Caro, sixties style. But perhaps without his incredible sense of spatial relationships
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:17 AM
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There is a piece similar to this outside of the Legionof Honor art museum in San Francisco. It is extremely unappropriate for the site, in which every other element is in a classical or beauxs-arts style. The piece sits as the centerpiece of an outdoor prommenade symetrical with the building's central axis. There is gorgeous overlooks of natural scenic beuaty everywhere, and then this attention-getting bright orange-red piece made of steel beams, which visually harmonizes with absolutely nothing within five miles of it.

And then there is the aesthetic of steel beams, welded into pretzel shapes, but I don't want to offend anyone...
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:31 AM
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Re: Can't miss this art

Visual harmony need not be the goal...maybe the art should provide an experience seperate from the outdoor environment, disagree with it completely, give a viewer another kind of experience of the space. Diagonally situated steel beams, especially huge ones, momentarily remind the brain of danger, initiate a burst of adrenaline, might be just what the passerby needs (sometimes the Starbucks just aint enough).
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:40 AM
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Hi, The appropriateness to the site is in the juxtaposition of those geometric bright orange steel beams positioned opposite the classical beaux art style buildings.
I'm not a big fan of Di Suvero's work but if you want to see a lot of it go to Storm King art center (500 acres) in upstate NY. Just a few miles off Rte 17, it's easy to get to.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:25 PM
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The appropriateness to the site is in the juxtaposition of those geometric bright orange steel beams positioned opposite the classical beaux art style buildings.
I guess, in much the same way as graffitti is appropriate to the site of any public building's wall...

I admit to not being up to speed with the " whatever jangles and mangles the past is a blast " aesthetic.
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:18 AM
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I'm just a middle aged white guy who likes his art thoughtful and clean. It doesn't have to do much of anything really to please me in some fashion or another, but I don't like it when it reminds me of seeing my mom cry.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:08 PM
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This is actually a very important concept, so here are some further thoughts:

It is very easy to place a piece that does not harmonize with its surroundings. I think it is a disservice to then pass off the discord as appropriate because of the dissonance. Here are some examples of works that would be equally innappropriate to the site:

1. Precious Moments figurines enlarged to heroic size.
2. A Claus Odenburg- style toilet plunger.
3. A large crucifix.
4. A small crucifix.
5. A sculture of Paris Hilton.
6. A sculpture of Ironman in tourist garb.
7. A decommissioned anti-ballistic missle.
8. Any work of any style made out of scale to the site.
9. A leftover Soviet propoganda statue of Lenin or Stalin.
( oops, its San Francisco...that might work if the style fit...)
10. A comic book figure

What is more difficult is to create a work that harmonizes so that it elevates and energizes the senses because it is so perfect that it looks like it always belonged there as an organic extension of the site and the the architecture. That is what great artists can and should do. The work, whatever it is, ends up looking timeless because the intelligence and genius of the artist was at work, not thinking of glorifying his or her name, reputation, ego, and pocketbook, but selflessly considering what would harmonize with and strengthen the site to which they were given the privelage of placing a work of art.

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